Lawsuits, Communities, and Assholes oh my
Hullo everyone! This will be another rant, and not much about writing. Other projects have been sapping me, and though I have been working on the next generation of Midas quite a fair bit, it hasn't had a lot of forward momentum.
it took awhile for SG to get that, if anyone recalls. It took until the ass end of The Memory Remains for me to keep up regular updates. As for tAoSG? It was written before I posted it. So hah!
Anyway, this isn't about me. Well, its always about me. Otherwise me wouldn't be talking and you wouldn't be reading. So on to the meat of the article.
A lot of people know I have several times debated becoming one of those hypnotists who throws MP3s up onto their site, and has people pay to be hypnotized. Mostly, because money is good, I enjoy things, and things are also good - and require a fair amount of money. However, if you know anything about who would be my . . . competition, you know the net is full of them, and they're about the lowest you get on the filth level of fetish town.
People charging 35$ for a sub par, nonspecific induction. I don't see why someone would buy it much less why someone would sell it. It's not unusual for financial domination to come up sooner or later. For people to be drawn back.
Whatever people want to say, hypnosis can be a very addictive hobby to those with certain issues. Charging for something like hypnosis, and it being used unsupervised, with not a lot of people who would lose themselves to such an addiction/suggestions caring about warnings, well... you have a powder keg there. People who put people under and call them worms. Figuratively. Turning someone into a chicken isn't harmful. Degrading one's sense of self and making it need you? Yeah. That's another matter.
There are a rare few out there who don't earn my ire, but as said, thats few. If you don't treat people like shit, don't try and attach money to someone's sense of well being, and you give warnings, you might not be a shit in my opinion.
However, some of you seem to think your shit doesn't stink, and it does.
One thing that earns a little bit of my distaste - though not necessarily dislike or hatred - is when people avoid terms such as Hypnodomme, slave, subject, so forth, just because they want to avoid a stigma. If you want to use a different term for yourself and you think it works better, fine, whatever works for you. Who calls themselves Madam Kistulot? Seriously. I have no problem with unusual titles/names. I encourage them. It's when you start pretending not having "slaves" even though you condition women into obedience to your word, and start saying you would never make a "slave" that you piss me off.
You insult everyone who has ever used the word as I do. Slaves, thralls, pets, are all very sacred to me. They are people with whom I have shared a very special gift that I care for in my own special way. Those that enjoy calling themselves slaves are not insulting themselves or reveling in some inflicted harm- they are reveling in the love that comes with being enslaved, a special kind of affectionate warmth.
Saying otherwise just makes you an asshole.
Don't just use another word for what you do to make yourself sound better, while insulting the rest of us. Sorry, but not all of us are puritans. We can deal with a little bit of "harsh" wording. We revel in it. If you can't play in the fetish pool without being an ass, maybe you shouldn't.
Now, before going any further, I'd like to segue for a brief moment. We've gotten assholes somewhat covered. Let's hit communities.
The erotic MC community somewhat depresses me. Photo manipulations with swirly eyes and a somewhat clever caption - usually stolen from bad cheerleader stories - does not make a truly hot piece of fetish porn. Myself, I hunt down normal porn and just mentally add my own manips. I don't see how adding a pendant makes it MC. I don't see how writing a shitty sideline makes it MC.
I see how that makes it crap, but...
Same goes for MC stories. I love the site, I truly do, if only for the backlogs, but so many stories on there... I just wonder. I know its free publishing. I know its the net. All get in. All can be shown. But why post such dreck? If its already been covered a thousand times...
Lately, in the #ArgentGarden Mesmerr has come up a lot due to his horrible use of metaphors. Do not compare a woman's genitals to jade gates of the Nile. Please. Do not switch metaphors fifty times during a story.
I don't know what to say really. Know that old recess peanut butter cups commercial, chocolate in my peanut butter? Well, heres a thought: keep your crap out of my porn. I know I can choose not to read it, and I do, but theres so precious good that sometimes i will branch off and try the unknown. If only the unknown didn't suck 9/10, this wouldn't be so bad. Just a small little request...
So, moving on to lawsuits.
Recently, 8-bit dropped by said IRC channel, and mentioned he was going to ask why people like Wiseguy, a hypnotherapist and mcporn writer, don't strike the community as a conflict of interests. I saw his point, and agreed. I consider myself a pretty good tist, but I'll admit, therapy? I do what I can to help people in my own way, but it arouses me to no end just to put someone under.
Doing it to help someone, I could do. Doing it without getting helplessly turned on by every session? I could probably keep my ethics solid. I have so far, knock on wood, with the few mistakes I think every beginner a little over eager has made.
But day in, day out? I'm not about to give myself that kind of credit, because I don't think I'm owed it.
S0 8-bit raised the question. Is it a conflict of interests? Is it ethical? I have my point of view, as does he, but he proposed the question to the community.
And Wiseguy threatened outing his identity and suing him for libel.
Wow.
Just an FYI Wiseguy, I don't think you're honorable or trustworthy as others have implied. I find your writing tepid and stunted, and your people skills greatly lacking. Mind, I don't think you're reading this, but I just had to say it. So I think you're an unskilled ass, and the thought of you as a hypnotherapist makes me groan and glad not to be compared to you in that way.
Another FYI: My name is posted all over this site. Carin Rhyanna McLeoud. Ain't much I hide. All of my friends in person know of my fetish. I'm kinda nuts. Its well known. Amazing how much more honest one of us is, of a sort.
So, moving on since I ranted my hatred a little long.
I don't follow the MC Garden anymore - its a shitty site and I've made my peace with that. But, Val reads update threads, and thats where all of this shit went down.
You know who else threatens a lawsuit for libel soon as you say or do anything against them?
Scientologists.
Think about that.
L Ron Hubbard couldn't write for shit either.
I'm just being an asshat in this post, but seriously, the community's lack of caring for skill, for people not being huge assholes, and for siding against someone just bringing up a point . . . its made me consider that maybe I should stop giving my stories to these people for free. Midas and its attached worlds, things I've already begun to write for MC Stories will continue. My next original idea unattached to those? I find a publisher and I sell the shit out of that short story.
There's only so much a gal can take.
~Madam Kistulot
it took awhile for SG to get that, if anyone recalls. It took until the ass end of The Memory Remains for me to keep up regular updates. As for tAoSG? It was written before I posted it. So hah!
Anyway, this isn't about me. Well, its always about me. Otherwise me wouldn't be talking and you wouldn't be reading. So on to the meat of the article.
A lot of people know I have several times debated becoming one of those hypnotists who throws MP3s up onto their site, and has people pay to be hypnotized. Mostly, because money is good, I enjoy things, and things are also good - and require a fair amount of money. However, if you know anything about who would be my . . . competition, you know the net is full of them, and they're about the lowest you get on the filth level of fetish town.
People charging 35$ for a sub par, nonspecific induction. I don't see why someone would buy it much less why someone would sell it. It's not unusual for financial domination to come up sooner or later. For people to be drawn back.
Whatever people want to say, hypnosis can be a very addictive hobby to those with certain issues. Charging for something like hypnosis, and it being used unsupervised, with not a lot of people who would lose themselves to such an addiction/suggestions caring about warnings, well... you have a powder keg there. People who put people under and call them worms. Figuratively. Turning someone into a chicken isn't harmful. Degrading one's sense of self and making it need you? Yeah. That's another matter.
There are a rare few out there who don't earn my ire, but as said, thats few. If you don't treat people like shit, don't try and attach money to someone's sense of well being, and you give warnings, you might not be a shit in my opinion.
However, some of you seem to think your shit doesn't stink, and it does.
One thing that earns a little bit of my distaste - though not necessarily dislike or hatred - is when people avoid terms such as Hypnodomme, slave, subject, so forth, just because they want to avoid a stigma. If you want to use a different term for yourself and you think it works better, fine, whatever works for you. Who calls themselves Madam Kistulot? Seriously. I have no problem with unusual titles/names. I encourage them. It's when you start pretending not having "slaves" even though you condition women into obedience to your word, and start saying you would never make a "slave" that you piss me off.
You insult everyone who has ever used the word as I do. Slaves, thralls, pets, are all very sacred to me. They are people with whom I have shared a very special gift that I care for in my own special way. Those that enjoy calling themselves slaves are not insulting themselves or reveling in some inflicted harm- they are reveling in the love that comes with being enslaved, a special kind of affectionate warmth.
Saying otherwise just makes you an asshole.
Don't just use another word for what you do to make yourself sound better, while insulting the rest of us. Sorry, but not all of us are puritans. We can deal with a little bit of "harsh" wording. We revel in it. If you can't play in the fetish pool without being an ass, maybe you shouldn't.
Now, before going any further, I'd like to segue for a brief moment. We've gotten assholes somewhat covered. Let's hit communities.
The erotic MC community somewhat depresses me. Photo manipulations with swirly eyes and a somewhat clever caption - usually stolen from bad cheerleader stories - does not make a truly hot piece of fetish porn. Myself, I hunt down normal porn and just mentally add my own manips. I don't see how adding a pendant makes it MC. I don't see how writing a shitty sideline makes it MC.
I see how that makes it crap, but...
Same goes for MC stories. I love the site, I truly do, if only for the backlogs, but so many stories on there... I just wonder. I know its free publishing. I know its the net. All get in. All can be shown. But why post such dreck? If its already been covered a thousand times...
Lately, in the #ArgentGarden Mesmerr has come up a lot due to his horrible use of metaphors. Do not compare a woman's genitals to jade gates of the Nile. Please. Do not switch metaphors fifty times during a story.
I don't know what to say really. Know that old recess peanut butter cups commercial, chocolate in my peanut butter? Well, heres a thought: keep your crap out of my porn. I know I can choose not to read it, and I do, but theres so precious good that sometimes i will branch off and try the unknown. If only the unknown didn't suck 9/10, this wouldn't be so bad. Just a small little request...
So, moving on to lawsuits.
Recently, 8-bit dropped by said IRC channel, and mentioned he was going to ask why people like Wiseguy, a hypnotherapist and mcporn writer, don't strike the community as a conflict of interests. I saw his point, and agreed. I consider myself a pretty good tist, but I'll admit, therapy? I do what I can to help people in my own way, but it arouses me to no end just to put someone under.
Doing it to help someone, I could do. Doing it without getting helplessly turned on by every session? I could probably keep my ethics solid. I have so far, knock on wood, with the few mistakes I think every beginner a little over eager has made.
But day in, day out? I'm not about to give myself that kind of credit, because I don't think I'm owed it.
S0 8-bit raised the question. Is it a conflict of interests? Is it ethical? I have my point of view, as does he, but he proposed the question to the community.
And Wiseguy threatened outing his identity and suing him for libel.
Wow.
Just an FYI Wiseguy, I don't think you're honorable or trustworthy as others have implied. I find your writing tepid and stunted, and your people skills greatly lacking. Mind, I don't think you're reading this, but I just had to say it. So I think you're an unskilled ass, and the thought of you as a hypnotherapist makes me groan and glad not to be compared to you in that way.
Another FYI: My name is posted all over this site. Carin Rhyanna McLeoud. Ain't much I hide. All of my friends in person know of my fetish. I'm kinda nuts. Its well known. Amazing how much more honest one of us is, of a sort.
So, moving on since I ranted my hatred a little long.
I don't follow the MC Garden anymore - its a shitty site and I've made my peace with that. But, Val reads update threads, and thats where all of this shit went down.
You know who else threatens a lawsuit for libel soon as you say or do anything against them?
Scientologists.
Think about that.
L Ron Hubbard couldn't write for shit either.
I'm just being an asshat in this post, but seriously, the community's lack of caring for skill, for people not being huge assholes, and for siding against someone just bringing up a point . . . its made me consider that maybe I should stop giving my stories to these people for free. Midas and its attached worlds, things I've already begun to write for MC Stories will continue. My next original idea unattached to those? I find a publisher and I sell the shit out of that short story.
There's only so much a gal can take.
~Madam Kistulot
Labels: EMCSA, hypnosis, Madam Kistulot, rambling, ranting, snark
posted by Madam Kistulot at
1:31 PM
4 Comments:
I agree with that whole 'slave' rant :/ It can be a term of endearment, doesn't have to mean 'works 24 hours a day for crumbs'.
Grr.
We disagree on a lot, and will probably always disagree on those things. But MK? You're right that the ethics/therapy conversation is valid. And I have enough faith in people to believe that people can control their turn-ons in places where it's inappropriate. Hell, if it wasn't possible, I'd be unable to leave the house for fear of seeing a woman in slingbacks...
The issue was the way in which it was brought up and tied with a comment suggesting that the papers be informed if such a person existed, after noting the wiseguy did.
The hypnodomme thing is interesting and certainly carries a good point, one which I find a bit more worrisome than the therapeutic one.
The standards comments, however, sadden me. Having high ones is fine, but I'm starting to think that you want something that the community at large isn't trying to provide and then blaming them. I know for a damn fact that my writing isn't up to your standards, isn't original or literary or polished. And y'know what? I'm not aiming for any of that. If it's easy, fun and hot to read, then that's my goal reached. And if someone else agrees, great. I've helped someone have fun.
Same with the community as a whole. It's not the Algonquin Round Table, it's a bunch of folks with something in common shooting the breeze and sharing some stuff they find fun and sexy. I'm sorry that's not enough for you anymore.
Carin, there was a point where I thought you respected me... When I thought I could call you a friend. But either you've changed a lot since then, or I didn't know you as well as I thought. The more I read of this, the more I get the feeling that you might be telling the truth about liking me, thinking I was 'sweet' but any belief that you respect me is quickly vanishing. The people I associate with, the things I enjoy both fetish and non, the places i inhabit... They're all fair game before the Madam's venom and disdain. Take those away, and you're left with what I'd imagine you'll brand as bitteness and naivite. Neither of which are a sound foundation for respect or friendship.
I'm sorry.
GM
PS gasmanmc@yahoo.com should work if you wish to reply.
I don't think it was out of line for Wiseguy to respond to 8-bit's (possibly unintentionally) implied threat by threatening consequences if 8-bit went through with it.
Maybe going straight to a lawsuit as the consequence is a little extreme, but it's hard to see anything less that would be any sort of deterrent.
I don't know what's been going on behind the scenes, but, in the public version of events, 8-bit has not painted himself in a favourable light, and the issue he was aiming to raise has been lost in the noise...
Yes, there is a point about conflict of interest, but, for most people, I suspect it's a non-issue - if they keep their fetish out of their professional life, then their personal life is their own business...
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